• http://www.thinkingofthings.com/ ToT

    Any thoughts on reformulations of the entries in this “Dictionary” will be much appreciated! :)

  • Axel Cholewa

    Me again :)

    Now I (feel I) know what I don’t like about the “definition” of depression: the relationship between the two explaining/defining sentences (one is sort of the reverse of the other) is not mirrored in the explained/defined words.

    This is because the meaning of “knowing something someone else doesn’t” is also reversed. In “insecurity”, the one who knows more (“everyone else”) is superior. In “depression”, the one who knows more (“you”) is inferior.

    Don’t know how to improve it, though. Not yet, anyway :)

    • http://www.thinkingofthings.com/ ToT

      Hmmm… again, I’m not sure I agree with you, and again with the caveat that the experience is rather subjective. But I think the perceived exclusive knowledge of the depressed is exactly the feeling of superiority, of having seen through the fakeness of everything, and therefore feeling superior to everyone else. A bit like Holden is calling everyone a “phony” in Cather in the Rye. So there is possibly a degree of contempt to these people living their lives as if they mattered.

      I thought the phrasing could be improved by adding (important): “…something (important)…”, but that would probably not help with whatever is nagging you about the pairing…

      • Axel Cholewa

        I still think you’re wrong :) What you describe can be a symptom of a depression, but it’s not the depression itself. Depression is such a serious mental disorder resulting in all kinds of symptoms and feeling (as you wrote yourself) that I think your definition is too narrow.

        I do like the play with words here, but I’d rather put “arrogance” in the place of “depression:

        The feeling that you know something everyone else doesn’t.

        As I said, such arrogance or disdain can arise as a symptom of depression, but it’s not the same thing.

        But arrogance doesn’t really fit in here, does it?

        • http://www.thinkingofthings.com/ ToT

          I completely agree with you, as a definition of depression it is weak, and as you say, rather describes a symptom than the disorder. What I wanted to highlight is the contradictory nature of this feeling, since depression is (at least in many cases) coupled with insecurity and the detachment from other humans it causes, which means that we simultaneously feel both inferior and superior to other people.

          I guess arrogance does fit in with the very same contradiction, since I believe it is also deeply rooted in our insecurities. Replacing Depression with Arrogance does not quite elicit the same feeling though, since many people who have felt depressed can relate, while people who have been arrogant probably won’t acknowledge this to themselves as easily… Or maybe it’s just me…